Coping with a Colostomy Bag - Impact on Sex Life

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Past Member
Apr 25, 2020 11:57 pm

Hello. I'm new to all this. Still working out the forums. I've seen people giving so much advice and I'm reading so many blogs.

I have a colostomy bag, a permanent new addition to my body. Five weeks and counting. I'm not entirely sure how I'm feeling about it yet because I'm on my 5th cycle of chemo and my emotions are pretty crappy anyway. (No pun intended) ... too long a story to share so in short, I have bowel cancer, a tumor very large, had chemo to shrink the tumor before surgery. Surgery success, cancer gone, clean up chemo, 3 cycles left to go. My issue is sex. Apart from what my body has gone through, I'm ready to continue my sex life. My husband is more than eager and says he's glad I'm still alive and doesn't care about the stoma.

I'm the one who it's bothering. It's just there. Dangling like an extra piece of flappy skin and it farts like the clappers. As in, it sounds like someone clapping which has really put me off even trying to have sex. Now, I have a sense of humor, I really do and I'm hoping this is just a chemo, hormone blip. However, it really is making me uncomfortable. Also, I'm a plus-size lady so this thing sticks out like a sore thumb more than it would a smaller person. Again, chemo gain so it should shed when all is done but that's months away. I love my fella and even though he's a patient person, I feel I'm depriving him of normality because I hate my new accessory. Well, I don't hate it really. I actually find myself cradling it like a weird baby belly. Or praying it won't pop off, again.

I'm not sure if I'm looking for advice or if I'm asking if anyone else has or had this feeling of wanting to leave your own body for a little while until it's all over. Does it get easier? Please no one tell me to get one of those cover-up bands. It won't work on me. They just don't appeal to me. I'm still sore with a waistband. I'm struggling mentally to adjust sex-wise. Otherwise, I'm okay with it. I'm alive and I actually find my stoma fascinating. It's the bags I hate :(

Thanks for reading x

Hope you all have a lovely day.

w30bob
Apr 26, 2020 12:09 am

Hi Storming,

Welcome aboard! I don't have a colostomy, so I'm not the one to answer your questions. I'm just in charge of the Welcoming Committee and wanted to say hello! You will find all the answers to your questions... and then some. You sound like you've got a good sensible head on your shoulders, so you're already ahead of a lot of folks. Stay tuned and the replies to your post will start flowing in. Glad to have you in our "crew".

Regards,

Bob

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mild_mannered_super_hero
Apr 26, 2020 1:03 am

Hello and welcome to the site. You might want to ask your surgeon or ostomy nurse if you qualify for irrigation. Irrigation will give you back an active lifestyle and you won't have to wear a bag, but rather a stoma cap or "patch" They look similar to a large bandaid. Not everyone qualifies but most cancer patients do, since the remaining colon is healthy. Good luck.

xnine
Apr 26, 2020 1:09 am

If you do not care to wear a band, time to look at different positions, back, on top, you have to experiment to see what works. For me, a band works.

Past Member
Apr 26, 2020 8:43 am

Thank you. Lockdown restricts communication with the surgeon, and my stoma nurse is very busy, but I will definitely ask. I didn't even think I had this option. Thank you x

 

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Bill
Apr 26, 2020 10:25 am

Hello stormingstoma. Welcome to this site, where you will no doubt get some ideas and advice that will help you on your journey.

I will reiterate that irrigation could resolve the problems you illustrate in your post, in that it would enable you to not have output during the day and therefore, you would not need to use a 'bag'.

Personally, I prefer a stoma plug, which helps me with a peristomal hernia  problem, but if I didn't have that, a stoma cap would do just as well and both these devices cover up the stoma in an acceptable way, which would enable you to take part in almost any activity you wished.(including sex.) 

I was advised that Irrigation should not be attempted until at least 6 weeks after the operation, so, by the time you discuss it with a stoma nurse, you should be beyond that time. 

Let us know how you get on.

Best wishes

Bill 

ron in mich
Apr 26, 2020 1:26 pm

Hi Storm, welcome to the site. What about taking some of the gas-reducing meds before having a romp? But seriously, most men overlook minor things and just want to get on with it. You're in the early stages of ostomy, and it does get to be second nature after a while. Good luck.

newyorktorque
Apr 26, 2020 9:59 pm

Hey stormingstoma1. Welcome to the 'club'. So glad you found this site.

I have an ileostomy (almost 4 yrs) and I totally understand your concerns. I cannot comment too much about sex as I haven't engaged in such activities for a long time. But it's something I have thought about post-surgery. It's obvious you are just not quite ready. I'm sure eventually that day will come. Perhaps it's simply all the 'newness' you are experiencing. Ostomies can be overwhelming, especially in the beginning. Fortunately, you have a very understanding hubby and I wouldn't be surprised as time goes on you will become more comfortable with your body. Then you will be ready for sex. Perhaps you can look at it as a goal. Get yourself some racy lingerie and.....VaVA Vooom!

I'm a little surprised you cannot see an ostomy nurse. They are very helpful in almost all things ostomy. It does not have to be the nurse who assisted you while you were in the hospital. We have a wound care / ostomy clinic downtown where I live. They see patients on an outpatient basis. I just made an appointment to see mine on Wednesday.

Get used to those ostomy farts; it could be worse! My stoma will cut one loose at the most inconvenient times lol. Hope you are dismissed from chemo soon and adjust to life with an ostomy. It's not as bad as it may seem, and yes, it will get easier.

Past Member
Apr 27, 2020 9:54 pm

Thank you all. It's all valuable advice. I'm in the UK, so things are a little different. Our NHS is fantastic but I am limited to what I can get on prescription. When I go back to work, it won't be so bad but that's months away yet. Still, it will give me plenty of time to adjust. Work is the next issue on my list of things to get my head around. My friends would fall down laughing the minute my bag starts to chatter lol. My stoma nurse is fantastic and she or one of her team rings me regularly but lockdown for me is strict because of chemo. I can't leave my house unless I really have to. I've been stuck indoors for 10 weeks now since before my op so I could still go ahead and have it. When I came out of hospital it genuinely was like the scene at the beginning of the Walking Dead. I had a bit of a shock. So, unless I get an infection or become seriously ill my only day out is to the chemo unit and back. Hence why I blurted out my worries here. So again. Thank you xx

Bill
Apr 28, 2020 7:28 am

"Our nhs is fantastic but I am limited to what I can get on prescription."

Hello stormingstoma.

Just a quick note to say that I was never really informed as to what I could/should have via the NHS prescription service except for the essentials. However, what I have found in practice, is that there are many stoma related things that are available on prescription, if you ask! I order my stuff online through our GP practice and, so far, they have not bounced any of my orders, and I change them regularly to try stuff that I have not tried before.  For example: did you know that you are allowed 3 hernia belts per year? These little things are worth knowing  but it was the manufacturers that informed me about this rather than the NHS. 

Best wishes

Bill 

Past Member
Apr 28, 2020 11:10 am

That is really good to know. Thanks. It was all a bit of a blur after the op. Not much info really went in once I left the hospital. Unfortunately, my stay was a very brief one as I was on my feet sooner than they expected. (I'm not keen on hospital beds). I only stayed 5 days and COVID-19 was already the worried topic amongst the ward. So my care wasn't so much neglected just rushed. Prescriptions weren't really discussed in detail. I deal through the stoma nurse and the company who supply my stuff told me unless my stoma nurse says it's okay, they can't change my order until I'm over the first six weeks. I'm guessing because my wound is still in need of check-ups. I did try another company for samples and they told me I can do my orders online without issues or asking permission from anyone. But then I really do have a nurse who knows her stuff. She knew I'd have trouble with mine before I left the hospital. I have an inverted stubborn stoma. She's not wrong. I know I'm going to need a belt in the future too. I have two very manual jobs to go back to. Lifting kids is worrying me. But I'll worry about that later.  

Puppyluv56
Apr 29, 2020 7:26 pm

Storm.

The effects of chemo can be horrible. I have had more than my share. Take baby steps. It will all come together. Your husband seems to understand, mine did. Don't rush things and get disappointed. It takes time to make friends with your new hardware. None of it is pretty. I agree with MMSH. With a colostomy, you may have the option to irrigate. It not only relieves all the daily, sometimes hourly attention to your pouch, it minimizes the accessories as well! This is a much added boost to your confidence! It completely changed my life for the better. Talk to your Ostomy nurse when you can. They usually want you to be 4-5 months out from surgery. Your chemo may even postpone that time frame. Worth a look.
Take care,

puppyluv

Past Member
Apr 29, 2020 8:57 pm

Thank you. I'm definitely going to keep this in mind. I think irrigation might be a more promising option in the future. If anything, my skin is so sore and uncomfortable more so during chemo than when I first had my colostomy fitted. I'm still having to measure, I still misjudge where I'm placing it then overcompensate when I do the next change. I'm angry with it and actually have arguments with it. My kids think I've gone a bit crazy. I think I'm going a bit crazy. But it's definitely the actual bags I'm hating. One of my twins actually asked if I was growing another tumor on the outside as it quickly filled up and gurgled. He thought it was hilarious that he witnessed me going to the toilet in such a casual way without blinking. I, however, felt only the weight pulling at my skin and the stinging pain. So, yeah, right now I know it's the chemo. I'm taking chemo every day for 14 days as well as IV one day for 6 hours at a time so it's pretty horrible. With each cycle it gets worse and also the effects last longer. I am literally counting my days until I ring that bell for the end of chemo. And to walk barefoot without my feet feeling like I stepped on shards of glass.

Puppyluv56
Apr 29, 2020 9:37 pm

From the perspective of a child! Too funny. If we could look at all of this as easily. What drug are you taking? Chemo or immunotherapy? 
I know all of the drugs are horrific! Neuropathy is horrible with most of them. Mine only started lately, two years after the last chemo but I have had radiation twice since then. I was given Magnesium to help during chemo but did not take any since until my hands started going numb and hurting so I bought some magnesium supplements and it has not happened since. I hope they are giving you something to combat that pain. It all is accumulative. So you have three more cycles or three more days total? I hope it is the latter. 
Time will take care of a lot. When I finally found a product that worked well for me and then irrigation, things changed.

So hope yours gets better fast. Sounds as if you have a lot on your plate with all this and children.

Puppy

Past Member
Apr 30, 2020 2:42 am

Hey Storm,

You already have had a lot of good advice here, so I will keep my comments short. First off, I would wait to try irrigation until you have finished and recovered from chemo. Your risk of infection is higher right now, and your immune system is compromised. That said, irrigation can be a huge relief, so I hope it works for you. It will take some practice, so don't be discouraged if it doesn't go perfectly the first time. Look up ostomy irrigation on YouTube; there are lots of videos that will help you understand the process. Secondly, have you had a look at Vanilla Blush products? They have great lingerie and bathing suits as well as hernia belts, and it is lovely stuff! Check them out at www.vblush.com. You might find some sexy lingerie that will distract from your ostomy. And finally, the noises your stoma makes may well settle down. Your system is out of whack right now, with the chemo and probably your diet will vary, depending on whether you have chemo mouth and everything tastes awful. That will pass, and eventually, you will settle into a rhythm. It does get better. In no time, you will be giving advice to a new "newbie".

Past Member
May 01, 2020 6:20 pm

Puppyluv56...My kids are 17 lol but it's the way I've brought them up. They have my sense of humor...well sort of. I'm on Capecitabine 14 days twice a day tablets and Oxaliplatin drip. My arm is in agony, constantly cold when the rest of me is boiling so nighttime is restless sleep. They had to reduce my dose because of the nerve damage and pain. Nothing much works. Then I had an allergic reaction to the oxaliplatin so now they give me a wonderful piratin...not sure on spelling but basically it's like gin and tonic and yes Padfoot, I have what I call dead taste buds. I can't wait to taste butter and cake again

Puppyluv56
May 01, 2020 8:45 pm

Wow, Storming,

You do get the bad stuff! Anybody, the Platón brothers are cruel boys! I had Cisplatin the first two times and did fine. I had chemo at my desk. Lol, I worked as a case manager for a large oncology practice. No side effects, did not lose my hair. It was great. The last time, I got double the dose of Cisplatin and that crap put me in bed for 10 days every time. Weak, nausea, sob. Lost all my hair the first treatment. You name it! I had it for 3 consecutive 8-hour days every three weeks! It was hell and the accumulated effect was worse!! I also got Topotecan. Not pleasant either at high doses. I can certainly relate to some of your issues but my neuropathy was not bad until lately. I have not been on here as much just because my hands hurt to hold the phone and type. So what did I do all day? Baked cookies! Lol, Greek Easter cookies called Koulourakia. The recipe makes dozens and dozens of cookies. You roll them and make them like a cancer ribbon. They are more like an English tea biscuit and so much work! Worth it though! I'm done now so I will have them for breakfast with coffee for a week or two!
haha, adult kids can be worse! Mine is 40 this past year! Crazy to some, but lots of fun to be around!
Hope things get better for you! There is an end to treatment soon! Keep that in focus and you will do well!
puppyluv

Past Member
May 02, 2020 2:48 am

Yes, the capecitabine is mostly tolerable, but the oxaliplatin is torture. My neuropathy is gone after 4 years, except some mild heat and tingling in my hands and feet occasionally. I remember everything, including water, tasting like rotten garlic. Yuck. Hang in there, it does get better! 

Puppyluv56
Nov 06, 2020 2:38 pm

Hey Storming,

Just checking in on you! How are you doing now? Hopefully your chemo is done and your ostomy is on the mend!
Hopefully you can update us!
Take care,

Puppyluv

Keith062
Mar 27, 2021 1:04 am

Hi, my name is Keith. I live in VA. I have had my colostomy for about 3 years now. It does take a little while to get adjusted. I am happy you are now cancer-free. Just remember, you are never alone in this new transition in life. I too was wondering what am I going to do and how will I adjust. I work with the public every day and do well. I went through several phases it seems and have come out good on the other side. If you have any questions or just want to chat, get back to me. I try to sign on to this site at least once a day. Have a great evening. Also, I am very new to this site as well.