Switching from Coloplast to ConvaTec Night Bags: Adapter Issues?

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goddi11891
May 12, 2021 7:06 pm

Greetings,

I have a couple samples of the ConvaTec pouch with the soft-tap (413438). I want to give them a try. I've been using the Coloplast appliance with the soft-tap and their night bag (worked fine). But I want to go back to the ConvaTec applainces because their barrier has the moldable flange and use their pouch with the soft tap.

However, ConvaTec only has the large plastic 'tub' for night drainage, no foldable night bag (better for travel, too). The Coloplast night bag's end piece that should fit onto the ConvaTec pouch is too narrow.

So, I can not use the ConvaTec pouch with the Coloplast night bag.

Also, the ConvaTec tubing for their plastic jug does fit the ConvaTec pouch but there are no ribs to secure it and it will easily become detached at night if you roll around at all.

Is there an adapter that can connect the ConvaTec Soft Tap pouch to the Coloplast Night Bag? Nothing shows up on ConvaTec's website. Seems like this would be a deal breaker for people who might travel. I don't think anyone would want to be carrying around the ConvaTec's large plastic jug.

Gary

PS ConvaTec is sending me an 'adapter'. But I just found amongst a bunch of adapters that is probably what they are sending. It is a several inch piece of tubing with a ribbed plastic end on one side. I gave it a try but I would not trust it to stay secured over night. It just slides in and any turning around at night would easily disconnect it. Anyone found anything better???

 

Bill
May 13, 2021 7:32 am

Hello goddi11891.

Thank you for sharing your problem with us, even if most of us would never have come across this situation in relation to our stomas.

In reading your post I percieve the problem as a mechanical one which may be resolved if you can get a secure fixing of the tubes you already have. I often have similar problems with my computerised garden /plant irrigation system and the solutions are sometimes found in different places, like irrigation suplliers or domestic fish tank supplies, where they stock all sorts of fittings with ribbed push-on connectors. I have found if I dip the end of the tube in hot water, then they slide onto the fitting much easier and when they harden as they get colder, they make a much tighter and more watertight fitting. There are always 'stubborn' joints that are under pressure  and either leak or give way entirely. In these cases I either secure them with cable-ties, or if they really need more pressure I use small hoseclips. Where I am absolutely certain I will not need to pull them apart at sometime in the future, I will use a more permanent solution and glue them together with plumber's 'solvent weld cement'.

I hope these few tips may be helpful to resolve your problem.

Best wishes

Bill

 

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goddi11891
May 14, 2021 8:57 pm

Greetings,

Ok...I still trying to come to a resolution of this problem. The initial problem was I want to find a night drainage bag that will work with the ConvaTec 413438 pouch that has a 'soft tap' that has 1/4" opening.

ConvaTec, in their strange wisdom, does not have a soft night bag that will fit this pouch. They do have a 'jug', but I don't want to commit to this 'jug' when I would not want to take it on a plane or a car trip. They don't even have an adapter that will work with this 'soft tap' pouch. I've talked to them several times. They sent me an adapter but it does not work with this 'soft tap' pouch.

So, they suggested that I try the Bard drainage bag. I called them to find out the diameter of the tubing and they said .028 inches. That does not make sense but that is as far as they would go.

I will just order one and see what happens. But...does anyone have a Bard drainage bag and can tell me the diameter of the tubing?

Gary

MLiljenquist
May 20, 2021 7:38 pm

Hello, I'm new to this site but I use Hollister urostomy pouches with the Bard 4000ml night drainage bags.  I use barbed tubing adapters to go from the hollister connector that attaches to the hollister urostomy bag, to my own 1/4" and 3/8" tubing.  I found some low profile valved quick disconnect fittings that I use, so I can disconnect and not worry about fluid leaking from the tubing.  

I'm playing with camelbak antimicrobial tubing (blue) and the camelbak adapters.  They are inexpensive relative to the ones shown in the picture below.  The bag shown below is my travel bag that I carry with me and "plug into" when I'm in long lines, airplanes, driving.  It has my supplies and an extra 2000ml bag.  

You can by barbed tubing fittings pretty at local hardware stores or on Amazon.  I have 90 deg elbows, 3/8 to 1/4 inch barbed adapters to go from one tubing size to another.  I don't  use clamps.  But, on the hollister connector (white with tabs) I do use superglue where the tubing attaches to the white fitting.  I've had that fail and I hate that.  Superglue works great.  

 

Hope this gives you some ideas.  If you want info on any of the fittings or if you want help setting something up that will work for you let me know.  

 


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