Ostomates: Juicer vs HealthMaster for Better Nutrition

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weewee
Jan 17, 2011 12:06 pm

The question today is who here has a Jack LaLanne juicer and who has the Montel Williams Health Master? I have the juicer and like it. The reason I am asking is that the Montel HealthMaster keeps all the stuff that the juicer throws away. Some of our vitamins and nutrients are thrown out also. I was wondering if anyone has had any problems with the pulp. Thanks for the input. The reason I am asking is that the doctors think that my Hirschsprung and being a colostomy are interfering with my nerves, and I am not getting enough vitamins since I digest really fast and things don't stay in long enough. With the juicer, your body receives everything way faster than just eating fruit. Veggies are not part of my diet; my stomach and body can't digest them fast enough, so I get full of air and, well, you know the rest. LOL. What fibers and nutrients I get, I have researched a lot into my fruits and finding out that I can replace them.
Thanks all for the help and hope this helps many others out there.

Katman
Jan 17, 2011 2:00 pm
Before becoming "gutless," I couldn't eat much of anything due to several severe strictures. I had been using a juicer to try and keep up on my vitamins. It worked fairly well, I thought... not too many troubles. I also had issues with most veggies... Transit times could often be counted within 2 hours... or less!



Since my surgery (ileo), I have been very cautious of blockages. My wife got a Vitamix (like a HealthMaster), and we love it. Besides being relatively easy, you get all the vitamins and less chance of blockage. Things still move through at an incredible clip, but there is more chance for my body to absorb stuff. I'm gaining weight and feeling good.



I would heartily recommend something like this, but the usual cautions apply: we are each a little different. You know your own body better than anyone else.



Katman
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budd002
Jan 18, 2011 1:46 am
Until I read this post I never even thought that I should get a juicer. I have a heck of a time putting any weight on and as for nutrients pufffttt

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  ...I do like my vegies and fruit but they don't always like me. Perhaps if I made them into juice we could start a whole new relationship....Guess I'm going shopping, but for which juicer??? Hmmmm......



Thanks guys for the idea!
weewee
Jan 18, 2011 2:22 am

Been looking at a lot of different juicers and will return with an answer. Been watching YouTube and so far, we have found a couple of juicers that are really expensive and not worth the money, like $400. Then found some as cheap as $100 that do a better job than the big expensive one.

budd002
Jan 18, 2011 2:50 am
Now you really have the wheels turning in my head....I wonder if I can get insurance to pay for a juicer as a medical necessity. I can't or don't absorb nutrients like most people would and a juicer would benefit my malnutrition and my absorption of very much needed nutrients....Sure would beat a TPN line. I'm going to ask my doctor about that, he'll sign whatever paper I put in front of him to save me having to argue my poin to him as I am 99% right all the time anyway, he has given up that fight with me. He has however been pretty adamant about NOT getting me on a mobile TPN treatment so perhaps THIS will be the kick in the pants he needs to get me healthy again and some nutrition into me.
 

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weewee
Jan 18, 2011 11:22 am

From the research a friend and I did, we like these two brands of juicers: Breville and Jack LaLanne. There are way more expensive ones out there, but these ranged from 100 dollars and up. The models we like for easy cleanup and price is what we look for. Breville Juice Fountain Plus JE98XL was 199 dollars, or the cheapest one was the model BJE200XL for 99 dollars, which couldn't do as much as the other model. Any of the Jack LaLanne models are 99 dollars and up. Both these models are juicers, so there is no pulp in the drink. The Jack LaLanne was easy and fast to clean. Yup, I have this model, made 64 ounces of fruit juice, cut all fruit in quarters, the juice served and cleaned up in under 10 minutes. Well, if you want more info on what I have found out, everything I put here is on YouTube. The next thing I have been researching is the fruits and what vitamins and nutritional value the fruits have. It's been way fun doing this and found a lot of the vitamins and other stuff is in the fruits. Crazy drinks I have had are oranges and grapefruit together, pears, cantaloupe, apples. Been drinking a little before I made the post and no issues with the fiber that is in the fruit, like what is in veggies. Good health to all and have fun.

margie
Jan 18, 2011 5:01 pm

I have been wondering about juicing. I have a juicer and used to use it a lot in the past. But now, with the ileostomy, I wonder how much of the nutrients will be digested as the colon absorbs most of the fluids. I don't even know how much my digestion abilities have been compromised. I don't want to eat the suggested diet of white breads and processed foods. I had cancer and want to eat well, anti-cancer foods. So, I feel stuck and was interested to see comments from people who are also looking for answers to how to have a good diet with an ostomy. Are we even able to digest vitamins in the same way as before? I would appreciate any food wisdom you have gathered along these lines or books to refer to how to be a healthy ostomate.
Thanks
Margie

car1951
Jan 19, 2011 1:26 am

I have the HealthMaster and I love the thing. I was one of those people who ate mostly raw stuff—you can imagine my shock when I discovered that carefully ingrained habits of healthy eating were no longer possible. The HealthMaster gave my raw vegetables and fruits back to me. I have no problem with the pulp, but I would suggest care by anyone first using one. We are all different, with different size stomas. I have both a colostomy and an ileostomy.

Be warned—the HealthMaster is huge! Best of luck to you. Oh, finally—the HealthMaster cost me $199.00.

margie
Jan 19, 2011 9:12 am

Hi
I have a juicer, but what exactly is a Health Master?
Thank you and best wishes to everybody
Marge

weewee
Jan 19, 2011 2:11 pm

The HealthMaster is what Montel Willams promotes. It's not a juicer; it purifies all the pulp.

Past Member
Jan 19, 2011 3:27 pm

Where can we find this product? Thanks

Past Member
Jan 19, 2011 5:09 pm

Margie,

If I may, the absorption of our digested nutrients and even water takes place in the small intestine. The process is completed by the end of the ileum, which is the final segment of the small intestine. Beyond this point, with the main exception being water, the colon or large intestine functions to absorb water and condense the future fecal material. Assuming that you have an intact small intestine, meaning all three segments, your digestion should be pretty much complete. However, this would be affected by the speed at which the material passes through the small intestine, i.e., the faster, the less absorption. So, in this case, the amount and type of food that we take in does have an effect. The colon does have a secondary function, so to speak, and that is it houses many non-pathogenic bacteria that do synthesize the vitamins that we need, such as the B-complex vitamins. Thus, your statement about vitamin supplements is a good one for ileostomates.

margie
Jan 19, 2011 5:55 pm

mercutio
That clarifies things for me. Thank you for your reply.
margie

weewee
Jan 19, 2011 9:09 pm

You can find a lot of juicers online or if you go to Costco or if you have a Macy's. A lot of places are pricey, so shop around. We have found a lot of nice, cheap ones. The Jack LaLanne is about 100 US dollars. The Breville you can find online, same with the HealthMaster. Now remember that not all of them are juicers; some are like a big blender that has a lot of power, and they have pulp in the mix. If you reread this post, you'll find a couple of people have different machines that they like, and so far, nobody has reported issues with their body and how they are able to digest. Remember, what one can do doesn't mean someone else can. Try small amounts to see if it works for you.

budd002
Jan 24, 2011 4:02 am
Talk about a deal! Check it out and what perfect timing....2 for 1



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