Experience with Tapeless Hollister Flanges for Active Lifestyles

Replies
10
Views
174
jacob.mallott
Mar 05, 2025 10:38 pm

After 12 years of no problems with my usual Hollister appliances, I've started developing rashes in a couple of spots under the tape part of my ostomy appliance. Maybe fungal, maybe allergic. I'm severely immunocompromised because of a liver transplant, and the rash is focused where there's dimpling due to surgery scars, so I think it could be moisture collecting there and allowing candida to fester despite my best efforts. I'm using Nystatin powder, but it's not resolving well. The tape also doesn't stick well when the rash is angry.

Anyway, all this to say that I'm considering trying the tapeless Hollister flanges. I'm a little worried about whether they hold up as well with daily activities and exercise (I go to the gym a couple of times a week, and I swim once or twice a week at a public pool).

Anyone have experience with tapeless and tape-ful flanges who can speak to my concerns? Any perspective would be appreciated, thanks!

corlsharonl49
Mar 06, 2025 12:23 am

I don't have any suggestions, but I'm sure someone here will. I do wish you luck.

Gray Logo for MeetAnOstoMate

Why Join MeetAnOstoMate?

First off, this is a pretty cool site with 39,628 members.

But, it's not all about ostomy. We talk about everything.

Many come here for advice, others find lasting friendships, and some have even found love.

"This group has been my go-to during my loneliest hours ...", one member said. And it's true, people here are honest and genuinely care.

🛑 Privacy is very important - there are many features only visible to members.

Create Account

  39,628 members

Gracie Bella
Mar 06, 2025 12:26 am

Hi Jacob

I have had similar problems with my skin. I am an asthmatic, and my stoma nurse suggested that I use my Flixotide inhaler (which is the preventer inhaler). A steroid inhaler like beclometasone or fluticasone can help with skin rashes around a stoma. So when I get a rash, I use about 5 to 7 puffs on my cleaned skin for around two weeks, and that helps enormously. Plus, I have one dose of antihistamine every day to help with my skin allergies.

Maybe your stoma nurse could tell you if this might help you too?

Not a lot of people know that a steroid inhaler can help with things like this, but do not use it for too long, as it can thin your skin.

Gracie

AlexT
Mar 06, 2025 12:37 am

Cut off part of your current taped flange and see if those tape-less areas clear up and look better. You'll find out the results, still have some extra security, and not waste getting new products if it's not the tape causing the issue.

w30bob
Mar 06, 2025 4:36 am

Hi JM,

My experience mirrors yours... no issues for many years with Hollister products and then BAM!... irritation only under the bandage portion, but only in certain places, not under all of it. I too treated it like Candida, and initially, it would clear with Nystatin, but then not so much. I was working with a good ostomy nurse and her good friend, a dermatologist. We tried a few things, but the only thing that seemed to work was taking a 100 mg tablet of Fluconazole once a week. The first week it worked amazingly well and continued to work for about a month. Then it slowly lost effectiveness. Topical steroids didn't work, although they felt great on my skin when applied... and I was running out of options. I ended up cutting the entire tape bandage section off the barrier and using the large thin barrier ring... so essentially the large ring was covering the entire barrier surface that was on my skin... eliminating any contact with the adhesive portion and my skin. I then used 3M Micropore tape around the outside of the barrier to keep it held tight to my skin. This was working okay, but it bugged me that I was having something happen to my skin that no one else was experiencing... which is almost impossible. So I dug through my stoma/ostomy picture book that I've recommended everyone get a copy of, and I finally found a picture of what my skin looked like when I had the irritation and couldn't control it. It's called seborrheic dermatitis, which when you have it on your head is also called dandruff in adults or cradle cap in youngsters.

What I read was that it was caused by a form of yeast called Malassezia, not Candida... which made sense since the anti-Candida meds didn't really work. The most recent research indicates it's not caused by the Malassezia, but this forms in the area after the issue has begun. So most of what you read about it is wrong, but the good news is there's a new medication called Zorvye that works really well to control it. I use the foam version and simply put it on my peristomal skin after I remove my old barrier and clean the skin well with water. I then let it air dry for 5-10 minutes and then apply my ring and barrier and get on my way. My skin has been perfectly clear since I started using the Zorvye.

One word of caution... Zorvye is a very new medication and some insurance companies aren't picking up the tab for most of it. I took my first prescription to my local CVS and they told me it would cost me $450 for a small tube of foam. Laughing as I left... I called my Derm, who warned me this could happen, and she sent it to a small local pharmacy who filled it for $35. So if your pharmacy wants a fortune for it... have your dermatologist find you a cheaper pharmacy to deal with. They can also give you some Zorvye samples to try so you don't end up buying a med that won't work. Zorvye is non-steroidal, so your skin won't thin with long-term use and doesn't leave your skin oily or greasy, so ring adhesion isn't an issue.

Not saying you're having the same issue... but you might mention it to your dermatologist and they can check your skin and find out if seborrheic dermatitis is what's driving you nuts. Hope this helps!!

;O)

 

My Ostomy Journey: Ryan | Hollister

Play
AlexT
Mar 06, 2025 6:48 am
Reply to w30bob

I've been using Head and Shoulders since I read the tip on here, never an issue. 🤔

IGGIE
Mar 06, 2025 2:16 pm

G-Day Jacob,

When you say under the tape area, do you mean after you have removed the strip of tape on the sides?

IGGIE

w30bob
Mar 07, 2025 10:38 am
Reply to AlexT

Hi Choo,

I should have explained that better. Dandruff is a milder form of seborrheic dermatitis, so it's not exactly the same thing. Like most things in the medical community, they really have no clue what causes either... but peristomal seborrheic dermatitis seems to flourish without the abundance of oily skin associated with regular dandruff. So while they think both are caused by the same unknown underlying thing... they are also a bit different depending on location and severity.

Dandruff shampoos are a mixed bag. They contain a lot of harsh chemicals, such as zinc pyrithione, selenium sulfide, salicylic acid, coal tar, ketoconazole, and tea tree oil. If you read the warnings on the shampoo bottle label, I'm sure you wouldn't want to deal with any of the common side effects of these ingredients. I'd just say to anyone who doesn't have a problem like I'm describing... less is more. Don't use things for problems you don't have... you're just asking for trouble... but everyone already knows this, I'm sure.

All I can tell you is if you don't have seborrheic dermatitis... be grateful. It's not fun to deal with, especially since it's a bit hard to identify and continues to get worse as the ineffective things you desperately try continually don't work. Those who have it know what I mean.

;O)

AlexT
Mar 07, 2025 5:06 pm
Reply to w30bob

If you read the warning labels about a potential side effect, none of us on the planet would survive day-to-day life. Everything solves everything, and everything kills everyone or at least makes you poop really badly. 😁

w30bob
Mar 07, 2025 8:07 pm
Reply to AlexT

I really don't know what to say to that. I guess ignorance is bliss, and I can only wish you the best. Maybe reading is overrated and knowledge isn't power after all. Who's to say?

;O)

AlexT
Mar 08, 2025 9:49 am
Reply to w30bob

😁